What The Luxe
What The Luxe
What makes something worth more than the sum of its parts? Why do certain brands command belief whilst others struggle for attention? What does ‘luxury’ even mean? What qualifies? Investigating the minds, mechanics and mythologies of modern luxury, What The Luxe is a series of conversations with the founders, directors and creatives behind modern marques. Together, we unpack the psychology of value, the business of brand, and the spirit that drives today’s best-in-class. Expect founding stories, bold positioning calls, and the messy truths behind polished brands. Because whether it’s craft, commerce, psychology or lore—all roads lead to value. A weekly podcast from Matter Of Form. Hosted by Anant Sharma & Fred Moore.
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Sept. 17, 2025

Imme Ermgassen • Botivo • Co-Founder

53. Craft, Hedonism & the Death of Moderation Brands with Imme Ermgassen, Co-Founder of Botivo

How a former hedonist built a non-alcoholic brand that refuses to apologise for pleasure. From high-end party origins serving Kate Moss and royal wedding guests to building credibility through Michelin-starred restaurants, Imme Ermgassen shares the story of how Botivo, the non-alcoholic botanical aperitivo brand, is rewriting category rules through radical positioning and uncompromising craft. We talk their "Yellow Hour" ritual, the surprising demographics driving growth, the rise of "zebra striping," and why credibility beats awareness when launching into a cynical market. A masterclass in authentic brand building that prioritises pleasure over piety.